by Dolores Cannon

D = Dolores \ J = John

[We continued to gain more information when we returned to the Library.]

J: The guardian asks, which subject would you like to discuss?

D: We are still interested in Atlantis. I’d like to ask a few questions about the time of Atlantis whenever it was happy, before it went into its downfall. When it was at its height. We would like to know something about the family life of the people during the good times of Atlantis. Can you see that?

J: Yes, he’s showing me pictures of Atlantis.

D: Did they have individual families and a family structure?

J: Yes, they had individual families. The families were really connected. People lived for a very long time, so there were large amounts of people. A family would fill a whole town. Or not a whole town, but it would be like that in our time. But they were interconnected and each member of the family was very important. They all had different skills and techniques to be of help for each other. Basically though they didn’t live communally like we do. Everybody had their own individual space, but they all met together at different times for meals and talks and things like that. Even husbands and wives had separate rooms or separate areas. Their houses were spacious, and had many rooms for every member of the family, and they were all interconnected, sort of like courtyards. I see courtyards with different people. They’re all related but they’re still very individualized. And I see the older people working with the children, and these older people are hundreds of years old. They’re not just a hundred, they’re hundreds of years old. And they seem especially to like working with young children. And I see that people go about their different things. There are people that are meditating. There are people that are working on different scientific experiments and things of this type. And they all had their own sense of space, like their own room where they do their own thing. A sense of individuality was very important to them.

D: And you said they would come together to eat?

J: Yes, they come together at different times for entertainment and to eat and to dance and to sing. They did get into group activities with the family. There were holidays and things like that, but basically everybody lived rather individually.

D: What about art and music and things like that?

J: Oh, yes, they had beautiful art. They mixed ground crystals with their paints, so everything had a luminous quality. And the styles of paintings had something like spirals in them. Little spiral things that made them really pop out at you. And they had all these processes where they used crystals for music. It looks like some type of machine that spins the crystal into a spiral thread. It goes like that. (Hand motions of a spiral.) And they were stringed instruments that they played on. They take the crystal and they spin … it’s not like the crystals that we have now, rock crystals. They were originally that, but they were mutated in laboratories that they had throughout the continent. And they spun it to a degree that it made like a spiral wire. And this spiral wire was used as an instrument on guitars, but not like our guitars or anything like that. They’re very different-looking types of instruments. There are string instruments. There are flutes. And then there are these things made out of huge long crystal-like things. They’re all made out of a crystal type of material. And they play in special areas, so that it resonates. It really opens up their heart and muscles, because the music is so beautiful. It’s very relaxing and spiritual. It makes you feel at peace. And people dance and sing. And I see many ropes of flowers around people. And that’s how they dance with ropes of flowers, entwining themselves with them. It doesn’t look ancient Roman or Greek. In fact, everybody has these beautiful colored garments on, in reds and blues and greens and yellows. And they’re dancing with these flowers and garlands. It’s sort of a combination of synthesized music and classical music. The sounds are very similar, but it’s very pure in tone. It’s not synthesized, it doesn’t have feedback. And they use it in their rituals. And it’s used in churches – not churches, temples that they had. As for art. Art is everywhere. Everything is painted beautifully. It looks like ground paint. It’s more like a solid rather than a liquid, that they use. Some are on canvas type things and others are on walls. And other things are partly sculptured into the wall and then colored.

D: Do you see any type of light source they would use in their houses?

J: There is this malleable rock crystal energy that they have. It radiates everywhere, so it’s always light. But by moving their hand up or down they can make the radiance even more brilliant or darker. When they sleep, to make the room at peace, they put their hand down like that if they want dark. (Hand motions, like moving his hand downward slowly.) Towards the wall. And it’s their vibration that the wall picks up and darkens the room. Everything is controlled by their own energies.

D: What about their cooking or eating habits.

J: They have these areas that are like big vineyards and gardens. And they have these strange looking beings taking care of all that. They work the fields and gardens. They look like centaurs and mermaids and goats. And all the food that comes into the kitchen area is then processed by these creatures. They do all the planting and harvesting and picking of the fruits. And they’re given food in return. Most of the Atlanteans love them very much, like a good farmer loves his horses and takes good care of them. These strange creatures are treated like benevolent animals. So in some parts of the continent these creatures were created and appreciated.

D: I’m curious about those animals. Where did they come from?

J: They were created for that purpose. They were genetically engineered.

D: You said there were mermaids?

J: Yes, the mermaids go into the waters and bring back baskets of fish. The people come and they laugh and they sing and they stroke these animals and kiss them and hold them, and let them know that they’re loved and that they’re grateful for what they’re doing. And the creatures prepare the food as well. Not the mermaid. The mermaid stays at this pond type thing because she’s half-fish. While the little centaurs bring in these wagon loads of baskets of food and fruits and things of this nature, that goes into a central kitchen. And there is one being that has an upper human body but has goat feet. And there’s a kitchen type of atmosphere, but the kitchen doesn’t look anything like our kitchens. It has cupboards though to keep things in. But basically the food is not cooked as much as it’s processed live, like fruits are sliced up or peeled. The fish and things of that type go into a thing that cooks them very quickly. It has different areas of it. It’s like a microwave type of thing but it isn’t a microwave. It looks like a crystal chamber where the foods are put that need to be cooked like fish. I don’t see any meat there. I just see the fish and crustaceans, like scallops and clams and things like that. And they’re just heated to the point where they’re not alive anymore. And then they’re eaten.

D: Were these creatures created genetically to be servants?

J: Yes, they were created to be the servants of these people. They’re loved though. When one gets hurt or anything like that, the whole family gather to energize on that injured animal’s part. They’re treated like servants, but loved servants. Like the way we would treat a cat or a dog, show it love and care. They’re very grateful for what these animals do, because they’re considered more like animals than humans. Parts of the body are more like an animal, but basically, their faces are human-like.

D: What about their behavior or their intellect.

J: Oh, they can speak and take instructions. They know simple things, yes, but nothing like the rest of the people do.

D: They’re not as intelligent as the other humans, although they do look partially human.

J: They’re not gross looking or anything like that. They look very natural, and they’re taken good care of. And they were very appreciated, and were told they were loved. I see this one servant that made up the fruit platter. And this woman takes it and kisses her and strokes her head, because in the head area there are little horns. And she rubs those horns like this, (hand motions) and she says, “Oh, you’re so great. Look at this, this is wonderful. It looks so pretty. Everyone is going to love it. And why don’t you come on out afterwards and …” And they all come up afterwards and they’re loved by the rest of the family. They’re treated like a loving pet would be.

D: Can these creatures genetically reproduce, or are they one of a kind?

J: No, they can’t reproduce. People buy them. Each one of them is individual, but they are mass marketed. They have places where you can go and buy these creatures so that they’ll be of service. After awakening John described the creature in the kitchen, which was the last thing he remembered. It had a face that was part cow-like and part human. As though a human had the nose of a cow and small horns coming out of its head. It was wearing a bib type garment over the top part of its body, because it was apparently female.

D = Dolores \ C = Clara

D: Can you tell me anything about Atlantis? Is that part of the records?

C: Atlantis went into the sea.

D: I would like to know about it before it went into the sea. What kind of a civilization was it?

C: It was very sophisticated. Very green. And very technologically advanced, beyond where Earth is today.

D: Was this civilization in existence for a long time?

C: A very long time.

D: Can you tell me some of their technological advances?

C: They had the ability to shift and move energy through time and through space in a much more sophisticated manner than technological – how do you say? – advances are done today. (Had difficulty) Hmmm, what is this word you use for advanced machinery? Like computers and communication devices. This equipment was very vast. It was done very, very minute. Even to the point where some information was accomplished at a telepathic level.

D: How was the machinery or the computers powered?

C: It was all done by solar. Everything was done by the Sun. The great central Sun.

D: Then they didn’t have electricity like we have today?

C: At one time they did. But nearing and in the latter years of the time that it existed it was all generated by the great central Sun.

D: Is this the Sun we know of in the sky, or is it something different?

C: The Sun that you know.

D: Was the equipment similar to what we have today?

C: Much more sophisticated. You have giant and mammoth solar panels, and solar equipment, which is far greater than what was used in Atlantis. Theirs was so advanced as to be utilized in a more efficient manner, and not taking up as much space. Their technology was more in tune with the central Sun, which gave off the energy. They were as though connected to a greater power. They were connected to the stars, and to the powers from other stars. They communicated with beings from other planets, from other stars. And through their communications they exchanged information, which they utilized in the technology of their machinery, their computers, and their other technological advances, whatever that might be.

D: So the other beings from the stars helped them?

C: Yes. It was a cooperative effort.

D: I have been told that the scientists developed the power of their minds to achieve some of these results.

C: That is correct. In development of their mind, when they began to open up to all possibilities, that indeed there were beings on other planets, then they were in contact in a way that was unlimited. They then had the ability, by leaving the limited way of thinking, and feeling and believing, to receive that which came from other universes and from other planets. And those planets in turn would feed information to them in such a manner that it became very telepathic. They would communicate from a mind to mind level without needing long lines of communication, like your telephone lines. And therefore, they took this telepathic ability and advanced that by communicating with many planets. It became a global community, as opposed to one sector of a human race.

D: They were able to accomplish a great deal more. Is that what you mean? (Yes) I’ve heard that Atlantis was not just one country, but it was the entire world at that time.

C: It was the known world at the time that Atlantis existed.

D: Were all of the parts of this known world advanced?

C: No. Not all parts. There were areas that were primitive, where people had not opened themselves up to the communication. The entire planet was not completely elevated to a higher level of vibration. There were some places and some populated areas that chose not to open their hearts and endorse a new way of living, a new way of being. So they became, what you might call, outcasts. They were those who did not believe they could go beyond their limitations. The ones who chose to live a limited life, chose themselves to live in a different area of that planet. Whereas those who opened their hearts and their minds to an unlimited way of living, soared and advanced. And communicated with all planets.

D: It was as though they didn’t have anything in common with each other.

C: Exactly.

D: Can you see where the more advanced, the scientific community, lived in relation to the way the world is today? I know the world has changed a lot.

C: It has changed very vastly. What was the known world at that time was comprised in an area which you would now call the Atlantic Ocean.

D: Are there any remnants of that civilization left that mankind might find at some time?

C: Only on an etheric level.

D: So it can’t be found at a physical level?

C: At this time there is a possibility if man opens himself up enough to believe truly, in a conscious way, that it can be found. Then it will be found.

D: Some people think they have seen things under the water that might be remnants of the cities, roads and buildings.

C: That is not true. What they’re seeing is remnants of other newer civilizations, since Atlantis.

D: I’ve also been told that the Atlantean scientists reached the point that they were doing physical experiments. Do you see anything like that?

C: What kind of physical experiments?

D: Genetic or anything like that?

C: Everything that is being experienced now on this planet was done during the time of Atlantis. However, it was done many centuries prior to the demise of Atlantis. Genetically, they cloned animals. They cloned humans. But they found that this was not the appropriate thing to do. For it interfered with the DNA of the human race, and the human race would suffer greatly should they continue. So it was shown that they were to stop.

[So genetic experimentation was done in addition to the use of the mind to affect the physical. I never found out which came first, or if they were both going on at the same time. It seems that their curiosity held no bounds. An echo from the past being repeated in our present time.]

D: Was it just as an experiment, or did they have a purpose?

C: It was experimental. Their purpose was to see if it could be done. And when they discovered that it could be done, they ran into many difficulties and many troubles with the outcomes. It was not desirable, and so it was felt best by those that made the rules, that it should be discontinued.

D: What kind of problems did they come across?

C: Forms appeared unlike humans. And there were many experiments of – how do you say? – interbreeding? (She questioned that word.) Inter-cloning? Mixing up. And the outcome was more like animal. It reversed the process of evolution. And disease occurred. It was not for the purpose of the planet for that to continue. So it was decided that, for the best for the planet, that it be discontinued. That it be stopped, or it would destroy humanity.

D: That sounds very drastic.

C: It was drastic. It is drastic.

D: But then instead of doing just exact clones, they began mixing the DNA, the genes, just to see what would happen? Is that what you mean?

C: Yes. The curiosity. Experiment. Let’s do this and see what comes out. Let’s do this and try this and see what happens. In the plant kingdom they had made hybrids of different plants and different vegetables, and trees. And so they thought, “Wow, we were successful doing that. Why not do it with humans?” So then they started. And it became, “Oh, well, let’s see now what we can do with this, and this and this.” And it became a massive disaster.

D: So when they began cloning and mixing the different genes, you said it became more animalistic than human?

C: It was as though they were reversing evolution. But it became very grotesque, and very evil.

D: So they began to get combinations that were not desirable.

C: And had never been before.

D: But apparently they were viable. They did live.

C: They lived for a while. And they went into a state of what you would call “crazy”. And destruction occurred, because they became like monsters.

D: Why did they become crazy? You mean because it was not a normal process it affected the mind of the creature?

C: That’s part of it. But part of it was the mixing of genetics of the animal kingdom with the human. And so it became such a plaything for the scientists. To see where we can go, and what we can create. We can now become gods, and create that which we choose to create. That which had never existed before. And so disaster reigned.

D: But you also said disease was introduced.

C: Diseases that had never been known before were introduced.

D: How did that come about?

C: By mixing the genes. By mixing that which was sick with that which was well. And that which was …. (Had difficulty finding the word.) What you would call “foreign bodies” to the human race. Which could be animal, or whatever of any kingdom that they wanted to try to introduce. That’s what they did. And so if one particle of the DNA from one strand, or from one race, had an inkling of some type of disease, it was introduced into the whole, which created a whole new line of disease.

[This could be a dormant type of disease that the host body was carrying and was probably immune to. But when the cloning process awakened it, it also changed it.]

C: The disease would mutate, and then it would mutate into something else. And if one disease would be introduced by one DNA strand, and another disease would be introduced into the same thing, the combination then would introduce something that could be and was very destructive.

D: So not only were the bodies and the physical appearance and minds of these creatures changing, also any – I want to say – bacteria, molecules, were also mutating and forming different diseases. (Yes) Going off in ways that had never happened.

C: That is correct. And it became so massive that they had to shut down all the experiments, because they saw it becoming quite rampant. And that it could destroy the entire human race. It was during 1997 that the first official cloning of a sheep in England was announced. After this session in August, 1997 the authorities were openly discussing the dangers of cloning and the ethics of it. From my work I have discovered that the cloning of humans has already been perfected. There are many things that the public at large is not aware of. It is as though the first crumbs of information are now being dropped (especially with the recent announcement of the first successful cloning of a monkey [our nearest relative]) so we will grow accustomed to it when the official announcement is made of human cloning.

[Scientists said they could clone animals and introduce human genes into them to produce better meat, and make a better animal. They also recently began introducing human genes into special pigs so their organs could be used in human transplant operations. If the donor pig had some human genes then the host human body would not reject the organ, because normally it would reject anything that was not human or compatible.]

[One scientist raised the objection that introducing and mixing human genes with animal genes could create unknown diseases, that would start with the animal and possibly spread to the human. The pig, for example, had diseases that were unique to it and could not be spread by handling it or eating its meat. But the scientists worried about what would happen if the donated organ were a permanent part of the human body and blood was constantly flowing through it. It could be carrying the germs of these diseases throughout the host’s system, and they could mutate into unknown diseases that could spread throughout the population. There was enough concern to temporarily halt the donor program until further research could be done.]

[It sounded like history repeating itself. Mankind was making the same mistakes we had made in the bygone days of Atlantis. Maybe that was the purpose of this information coming forth at this time in our history. A warning bell from the past.]

D: Then the diseases were not only just in the genetic experiments. It was beginning to spread to the rest of the human race?

C: It was confined to the genetics. But scientists saw that, should they continue, then it would. Because those beings would then integrate into the other community. And then that disease would be transmitted throughout all of civilization. And the powers that be said, this we cannot allow to happen. So that which was, was destroyed.

D: Were these creatures they created, sterile, or were they able to reproduce themselves?

C: They could not reproduce themselves. They were simply “clones”, with no reproductive organs.

D: What did they use these beings for, when it first began, before it got out of control? Did they have a purpose?

C: The purpose to start with was simply to see if it could be done, and it got out of control.

D: Then they didn’t use these beings for anything?

C: What the beings were capable of doing, they taught them like robots. So they acted as robots at the commands of the scientists. They could be their assistants, or playmates for others. They were designed to be a housekeeper, designed to be the shepherd, designed to be whatever. Once they saw that, “Well, we should have a purpose for this, if we’re going to create these.”

And then they thought, “Well, this is nice. So we’ll introduce all these other genes with all these other animals, to see what we can come up with.” And so what happened then was chaos.

D: Then the main reason for shutting down the experiment was they were afraid it was getting out of hand and the disease would spread?

C: That was the only reason. Because they could see that the whole civilization would be totally destroyed. So instead they destroyed those beings which they had created.

D: And you said the ‘powers that be’ are the ones that told them they had to do this. Who do you mean?

C: The governments.

D: So they knew what the scientists were doing.

C: Yes. They endorsed it, until they saw it was at a place where it could not go, and it could not be. Otherwise all of civilization would be destroyed.

D: It would have spread even to the communities that were, more or less, what you called “outcasts”?

C: Oh, yes. Oh, yes.

D: So they then rounded up the beings they had created, and had to destroy them?

C: Yes, they did. Not in a massive way, but in a very quiet and subtle way that seemed a natural way. So the community at large would not be alarmed or go into a panic situation. So it was kept very under control. The general public was not aware of some of the grotesque beings that came out of the experimentations. It was somewhat like the way your government hides a lot of stuff from the general public. That is the way it was in the time of Atlantis.

D: I’ve often suspected that many of the legends of half-human, half-animal, may have come from that time period. Is that possible?

C: Yes. It is possible. It did.

D: Then these creatures, half-human, half-animal, did not exist after the time of Atlantis? (No) So the legends have to be that old?

C: Yes. It originated in Atlantis.

D: In the times of the Romans and the Greeks and the Egyptians, you hear of these stories. So they had a basis in fact, but it went very far back in time. Is that correct?

C: Long before Egypt and Rome were ever, ever conceived.

D: But it was part of the memories, and they turned them into legends.

C: Yes, that is correct. It has been handed down, so it is a memory of the collective consciousness.

D: I’ve always believed that legends have some basis in fact, if you take them back far enough.

C: All of them do. Otherwise, how would they ever come to be a legend? Once they’re a legend, then each person who gets it wants to add a little hint of their own flare and flamboyance to it, to make it an even greater, more colorful legend.

D: But it all has to begin somewhere.

C: There is always the beginning.

D: Was there anything else that the scientists did that they were later told they should stop?

C: That was the biggest thing. That was the thing of significance that you asked about, and seemed appropriate at this time to mention.

D: Because we are beginning to stumble into the same area. (Yes) I have been told that in our time, today in the 20th century, there are scientists who are experimenting on this same type of thing. Do you know anything about that?

C: That is true. That is true. They are at the very beginning of playing with the genetics. And as the public becomes more aware of it, there will be an uprising of saying, “That is unnatural. Let it be.”

D: I’ve often suspected they have gone further than they’re letting the people know.

C: Yes, they have. They will drop a little piece of information here, and a little piece of information there. And as in the days of Atlantis, it was hidden. In today’s time, as you know it, they are allowing a little dribble of information out. Just enough so that the general public will not become alarmed. And when enough information does leak out – on purpose, by some from the interior – then the public will rise up in arms, and say, “We cannot allow this to happen. It must not happen. Because it will destroy the human race, as we know it.”

D: History will repeat itself.

C: Yes. But because of communication in the time in which you live, more people are aware in a faster way by getting this communication en masse at one time. If this is known that it could destroy the world, the public will rise up in arms.

D: Have the scientists in the 20th century already begun combining DNA of different species?

C: Yes. Very secretively.

D: Can you tell me anything about that? I would like to know how far we have gone. I know it’s a disturbing topic.

C: (Deep sigh) It’s not appropriate at this time for us to talk about that subject any more.

D: Okay. But I’ve been told that the extraterrestrials are helping our government in such experiments. Is that true? (Yes) Do they approve of what’s going on?

C: What the extraterrestrials are doing is simply controlling it and keeping it at a level where the human race will not destroy themselves.

D: Because they, more or less, know how this works, don’t they?

C: Yes, we do.

D: I wonder if human scientists will listen to them, or did they go off on their own?

C: We have ways of letting the scientists know there are limits.

D: And I assume these experiments are being done in secret places.

C: Yes. All over the planet. But we, more or less, are helping keep a cap on it, so that it doesn’t destroy the Earth.

D: Do you think the scientists could take it out of control?

C: It could happen. It is a planet of free choice. (She seemed uncomfortable.)

D: That’s okay. You always tell me when you can’t give me any more information, and I respect that. To go back to Atlantis – can you tell me what happened at the destruction? Was there a certain event that finally culminated and caused it to sink into the water?

C: I can’t discuss that today.

D: Why not?

C: It is just not an appropriate time to discuss how it happened. It may, at some future time, be a time when that information can be released.

D: All right. But after the destruction, were there survivors?

C: There was much loss of life at that time. Earth required a reseeding.

D: I believe in the seeding, so that doesn’t surprise me. Let me tell you a theory I have, and you can tell me if it’s correct or not. I’ve often thought there might have been survivors who came to Egypt and Peru and different parts of the world, where we have these large monuments. And that maybe they carried the knowledge of how to do these things, like working with stone. Is that correct?

C: During the time of Atlantis we were in contact with humans on Atlantis. And so in cooperation beings from Atlantis visited other stars. And some of the beings from Atlantis, who were on other stars, then helped to seed the area where Egypt is, and where other areas are. So therefore the information and the memories of Atlantis have continued. The legend began, and has carried through because beings from Atlantis, who lived on other stars, came back, as seedlings in physical form.

D: But as seedlings, you mean … full-grown. (Yes) Because I know in the very beginning life began on the cellular stage and evolved.

C: Yes. Not so at this time. Those beings, you might say, took a sabbatical, took a vacation from Atlantis and went to another star. And then when Atlantis disappeared from the Earth, and other areas came up, those beings came back to the planet Earth to start life again. Many that repopulated the Earth had to come from other star systems, because there was a great loss of life. Simply because of the explosive nature in which the planet disappeared. And that’s all I can say about that. Perhaps at another time, if it’s appropriate, and the council will release that information, then we can allow that.

[We had been given clues that the great civilization had to fall because of their misuse of their mind powers and their attempts to go against the moral structure of the universe by rewriting genetics. Yet I suspected that something more powerful was involved to create the actual cataclysm that sank Atlantis.]

Excerpt from The Convoluted Universe, Vol. I

See Part IV here.

See Part VI here.